At what point is it ok for a site to make their name become part of the girl’s name? Is it a certain number of sets and/or videos? Is it only ok for the first one she was on? The last one she was on? Is it exclusivity? What happens if she then appears on another site? Does she get a divorce and change her name? Some sites seem to feel like their girls really belong to them, and some even seem to have contracts that amount to just that. Others simply pressure girls with threats of disinclusion and hostility. A surprising number of girls even take on certain site names and site initials in their MySpace profile names and other social network services. I’ve even had girls introduce themselves to me, using their site surname. “Hi, I’m Becky Starbucks” That would be weird, so why has it become such a trend in Alt? Some sites are more pushy about this than others and some don’t seem to do it at all. Isn’t branding a girl with a product name kind of the opposite of what this is all supposed to be about? A girl could be Penthouse Pet of the Year, but nobody would expect her to go around calling herselve Ivana Penthouse. What’s up with that? When should it be ok?
AltPorn Question: Branding Models
Oct 26, 2007, 07:37 am
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I guess it’s a status thing. I assume SG started it with their exclusivity contract and other sites have blindly followed. Girls, especially those on myspace seem to stack up the amount of sites they work with in their last names. I’ve got no problem with it, I’ve never asked for anyone to change their name, it’s a lil free publicity for us smaller sites I guess 😉
I have DeviantNation’s initials in front of my name on my Myspace profile for site promotion purposes only. We’ve not been pressured to add anything to our actual names or felt that we are “owned” by the site.
Are there any sites that actually do that except SG? The three alt-porn sites I’m on have never pressured me to do anything. I promote them because I actually like the sites I’m on.
Because, despite claiming to be progressive and feminist, they still view women as property. Duh! :b
Bedlam. Define “they”? As far as I know, SG is the ONLY site that makes you put “Suicide” after your name. They’re also the only site out there claiming to be feminist, as far as I know.
I’m pretty sure God’s Girls does this too.
It’s mentioned over here.
Betty: They’re not the only ones who’ve claimed to be feminist, though a vast majority now seem to shy away from that label. But yes, I was referring to SG. For some reason I have a “He Who Must Not Be Named” approach to SG. I think it’s due to all the vocal groupies that have a tendency to hound one down.
I just read the thing on GG, it’s pretty sad that they think they can force their models to do whatever just because they don’t know how to manage a business properly.
the websites i model for never asked me to change my name or anything like that… and also, i model for so many websites that, if i had to put all their names after “jessy nix”, it would be a very very long name 😉 sometimes i write the initials of the sites on myspace after my name (for example “jessy nix [BD] [PF]”), but no one asked me to do it, i just like to promote the sites i’m on and treat me well you know? 🙂 but now i’m on too many sites so i don’t do that anymore, it was getting confusing.
I think its really ridiculous that anyone would need to be so over saturated in ONE market to have to worry about how many sites or how many names they have.
But there are more than one site(s) that will refer to their models by some wording in their name. DOnt any of you alt. porners pay attention to burning angel? they do it. lazerbunny does it. Chaos Chix , lots of sites do it. In some ways the alt.porn community really blows my mind because lots of people tend to act as if they are paying attention to what is going on, yet when its convenient they forget alot. WHo cares if someone changes their name or is a feminist or not,MOST of the time its marketing or complete bullshit altogether. Thats what makes mainstream pornography kind of better. There aren’t a whole lot of fakeish conversations happening wherein people act dumb about subjects that are terribly obvious and quite ridiculous. $G has contract models , so what..So do alot of other companies, like MGM and Vivid, but noone is freaking out about that.
Stoya just signed with DP, first thing they did, applied for copyright and trademarked the name she has been known by for years before then, thats what happens. You would not know about your favorite bands or have anything to sit on your ass and watch on the internet or on tv without contracts or branding.
Stop trying to act as if any of it makes a differnece at all. You will probably steal your favorite bands song, watch some free porn on the internet,OR even better yet, just put it on your myspace profile that you are a feminist and start your own website! like every other person in their “left” mind.
“Stoya just signed with DP, first thing they did, applied for copyright and trademarked the name she has been known by for years before then, thats what happens.”
Since when does saying “oh everyone else does it” make it an ok thing to do? I certainly hope that’s not how you make all your moral decisions.
Sean, you seem to think that everyone in the world left their moral compass in their other pants (in a seedy hotel room, next to a dead hooker).
no actually quite the opposite. I think that one thing that is lost in modeling and also other forms of art is representation. Alot of people think that if they can take their clothes off and rant, they are an alt model. Stoya on the other hand, was very careful in planning her modeling career, and now has been signed by a very good company.Its no different than bands getting signed to a record label, or a famous artist having an agent.Its actually the opposite if leaving your morals in a seedy hotel with a dead hooker.so, your comment makes no sense to me..thats all i have to say on the topic. in brief, most professionals in an industry are represented unless they can represent themselves fully and completely in all aspects of business.
its really quite simple.
end of story.