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		<title>Corwin Prescott Temperance Kickstarter Last Day</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Corwin Prescott has been an AltPorn Awards nominee for Best Alternative Erotica Photographer. Back when Zivity (RIP) was still around, his work was some of the most interesting on the site. Right now, he is running the final day of his Kickstarter for Temperance. This is to be a pair of elegant softcover books featuring [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.corwinprescott.com" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Corwin Prescott</a> has been an <a href="https://altporn.net/news/2017/04/15/altporn-awards-2017-nominees/" rel="noopener" target="_blank">AltPorn Awards nominee</a> for Best Alternative Erotica Photographer. Back when Zivity (RIP) was still around, his work was some of the most interesting on the site. Right now, he is running the final day of his Kickstarter for <a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/414282939/temperance-a-fine-art-nude-book" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Temperance</a>. This is to be a pair of elegant softcover books featuring his recent photography of nude models. In his artist statement, he explains that his goal with these images was to kind of let the models do whatever they wanted, rather than imposing what he wanted on the images. While, within the alt community, model empowerment of this sort may strike some as unoriginal or almost typical, this kind of approach is still sadly VERY rare in mainstream erotic photography, and it is nice to see a photographer like Corwin Prescott who has created such a substantial body of work. It is not like he shot one or two people with this approach and got bored. That would be easy, while what he has created is hard. He is perhaps best knows for his 50 Models in 50 States project, which was also funded through Kickstarter. I also think it is cool that the print versions of Temperance have a unique design feel and are being printed in such an offbeat creative and pretty way. Last day to back <a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/414282939/temperance-a-fine-art-nude-book" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Temperance on Kickstarter</a>, so check it out now.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/414282939/temperance-a-fine-art-nude-book" rel="noopener" target="_blank"><img fetchpriority="high" decoding="async" src="https://altporn.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/corwin-prescott-temperance-kicktarter-01-694x694.jpg" alt="Corwin Prescott Temperance Kickstarter" width="694" height="694" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-124665" srcset="https://altporn.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/corwin-prescott-temperance-kicktarter-01.jpg 694w, https://altporn.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/corwin-prescott-temperance-kicktarter-01-220x220.jpg 220w, https://altporn.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/corwin-prescott-temperance-kicktarter-01-350x350.jpg 350w" sizes="(max-width: 694px) 100vw, 694px" /></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Temperance is a dual volume, softcover photography book by Corwin Prescott of fine art nude images shot over the course of four years.</p>
<p>&#8220;How much can you remove yourself from a photo you have taken? I put a mirror, sometimes two, sometimes three, between myself and the model. I want to tell the story the subject wants to tell. The photographer is the ghost of every image. I have always wanted to place attention elsewhere and not to stand under the lights, or in the gaze of others.</p>
<p>The further I can remove myself from a portrait the better. I used to want to see myself reflected in the eyes of every person I come across but even that feels too close now. Now I take the effort to look at people as indirectly as I can. Capture them as if I am not there, or am there, however they prefer. Temperance is my attempt to abstain from influence as best I can and to record what follows.</p>
<p>For three years I spent months at a time in a small room photographing portraits not knowing what I had to say. I think because it was my time to stop speaking&#8230;my time to accept a silence I often run from. Photography is the greatest meditation on a moment we have. This is a collection of moments I have witnessed and done my best not to tamper with. The hands of men have muddied far too much in this world; I hope that I can touch lightly enough not to stir the sediment of misery sitting just below life&#8217;s surface, but to calm or allow a hand for escape.</p>
<p>I search for peace rather than joy or abrasion. Even peace is often melancholy. Maybe the mood of Temperance is still a reflection of me. I can only walk so far away.&#8221;</p>
<p>-Corwin Prescott</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/414282939/temperance-a-fine-art-nude-book" rel="noopener" target="_blank"><img decoding="async" src="https://altporn.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/corwin-prescott-temperance-kicktarter-02-694x390.jpg" alt="Corwin Prescott Temperance Kickstarter" width="694" height="390" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-124666" srcset="https://altporn.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/corwin-prescott-temperance-kicktarter-02.jpg 694w, https://altporn.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/corwin-prescott-temperance-kicktarter-02-220x124.jpg 220w, https://altporn.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/corwin-prescott-temperance-kicktarter-02-350x197.jpg 350w" sizes="(max-width: 694px) 100vw, 694px" /></p>
<p><img decoding="async" src="https://altporn.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/corwin-prescott-temperance-kicktarter-03-694x390.jpg" alt="Corwin Prescott Temperance Kickstarter" width="694" height="390" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-124667" srcset="https://altporn.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/corwin-prescott-temperance-kicktarter-03.jpg 694w, https://altporn.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/corwin-prescott-temperance-kicktarter-03-220x124.jpg 220w, https://altporn.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/corwin-prescott-temperance-kicktarter-03-350x197.jpg 350w" sizes="(max-width: 694px) 100vw, 694px" /></p>
<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://altporn.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/corwin-prescott-temperance-kicktarter-04-694x391.jpg" alt="Corwin Prescott Temperance Kickstarter" width="694" height="391" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-124668" srcset="https://altporn.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/corwin-prescott-temperance-kicktarter-04.jpg 694w, https://altporn.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/corwin-prescott-temperance-kicktarter-04-220x124.jpg 220w, https://altporn.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/corwin-prescott-temperance-kicktarter-04-350x197.jpg 350w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 694px) 100vw, 694px" /></p>
<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://altporn.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/corwin-prescott-temperance-kicktarter-05-694x391.jpg" alt="Corwin Prescott Temperance Kickstarter" width="694" height="391" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-124669" srcset="https://altporn.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/corwin-prescott-temperance-kicktarter-05.jpg 694w, https://altporn.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/corwin-prescott-temperance-kicktarter-05-220x124.jpg 220w, https://altporn.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/corwin-prescott-temperance-kicktarter-05-350x197.jpg 350w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 694px) 100vw, 694px" /></p>
<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://altporn.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/corwin-prescott-temperance-kicktarter-06-694x391.jpg" alt="Corwin Prescott Temperance Kickstarter" width="694" height="391" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-124670" srcset="https://altporn.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/corwin-prescott-temperance-kicktarter-06.jpg 694w, https://altporn.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/corwin-prescott-temperance-kicktarter-06-220x124.jpg 220w, https://altporn.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/corwin-prescott-temperance-kicktarter-06-350x197.jpg 350w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 694px) 100vw, 694px" /></p>
<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://altporn.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/corwin-prescott-temperance-kicktarter-07-694x391.jpg" alt="Corwin Prescott Temperance Kickstarter" width="694" height="391" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-124671" srcset="https://altporn.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/corwin-prescott-temperance-kicktarter-07.jpg 694w, https://altporn.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/corwin-prescott-temperance-kicktarter-07-220x124.jpg 220w, https://altporn.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/corwin-prescott-temperance-kicktarter-07-350x197.jpg 350w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 694px) 100vw, 694px" /></p>
<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://altporn.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/corwin-prescott-temperance-kicktarter-08-694x391.jpg" alt="Corwin Prescott Temperance Kickstarter" width="694" height="391" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-124672" srcset="https://altporn.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/corwin-prescott-temperance-kicktarter-08.jpg 694w, https://altporn.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/corwin-prescott-temperance-kicktarter-08-220x124.jpg 220w, https://altporn.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/corwin-prescott-temperance-kicktarter-08-350x197.jpg 350w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 694px) 100vw, 694px" /></p>
<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://altporn.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/corwin-prescott-temperance-kicktarter-09-694x391.jpg" alt="Corwin Prescott Temperance Kickstarter" width="694" height="391" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-124673" srcset="https://altporn.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/corwin-prescott-temperance-kicktarter-09.jpg 694w, https://altporn.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/corwin-prescott-temperance-kicktarter-09-220x124.jpg 220w, https://altporn.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/corwin-prescott-temperance-kicktarter-09-350x197.jpg 350w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 694px) 100vw, 694px" /></p>
<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://altporn.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/corwin-prescott-temperance-kicktarter-10-694x391.jpg" alt="Corwin Prescott Temperance Kickstarter" width="694" height="391" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-124674" srcset="https://altporn.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/corwin-prescott-temperance-kicktarter-10.jpg 694w, https://altporn.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/corwin-prescott-temperance-kicktarter-10-220x124.jpg 220w, https://altporn.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/corwin-prescott-temperance-kicktarter-10-350x197.jpg 350w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 694px) 100vw, 694px" /></p>
<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://altporn.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/corwin-prescott-temperance-kicktarter-11-694x391.jpg" alt="Corwin Prescott Temperance Kickstarter" width="694" height="391" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-124675" srcset="https://altporn.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/corwin-prescott-temperance-kicktarter-11.jpg 694w, https://altporn.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/corwin-prescott-temperance-kicktarter-11-220x124.jpg 220w, https://altporn.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/corwin-prescott-temperance-kicktarter-11-350x197.jpg 350w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 694px) 100vw, 694px" /></a></p>
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		<title>Best Membership Site AltPorn Awards 2017 Nominees</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[The official APN 2017 AltPorn Awards nominees for Best AltPorn Membership Site (2016) – Multigirl/Community Blue Blood Network (BarelyEvil, GothicSluts, EroticFandom, RubberDollies) BurningAngel GodsGirls Zivity Winners are selected based on a combination of votes from the APN judges panel of editorial and writing staff and suggestions from fans, models, and producers. To contribute to choosing [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The official APN 2017 AltPorn Awards nominees for Best AltPorn Membership Site (2016) – Multigirl/Community</p>
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<li><strong><a href="https://altporn.net/link/blueblood.php" target="_blank">Blue Blood Network (BarelyEvil, GothicSluts, EroticFandom, RubberDollies)</a></strong>
<li><strong><a href="https://altporn.net/link/burningangel.php" target="_blank">BurningAngel</a></strong>
<li><strong><a href="https://altporn.net/link/godsgirls.php" target="_blank">GodsGirls</a></strong>
<li><strong><a href="https://altporn.net/link/zivity.php" target="_blank">Zivity</a></strong>
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<p>Winners are selected based on a combination of votes from the APN judges panel of editorial and writing staff and suggestions from fans, models, and producers. To contribute to choosing the winners, just hit up our <A HREF="https://altporn.net/contact/">contact form</a> and select ‘Suggestion,’ write ‘2016 APN Award Nomination’ for subject, and let us know the category or categories and your suggested winner(s). You are welcome to ask your friends and fans and collaborators to vote for you. Nominations can also be tweeted at us with hashtag #apnawards to <A HREF="https://twitter.com/AltPornNet" target="_blank">@AltPornNet</a> via the <A HREF="https://twitter.com/AltPornNet" target="_blank">APN Twitter</a> because we want to make it easy for you.</p>
<p>If you are nominated, and don&#8217;t have an email from us yet, you can also contact us for nominee badges and <A HREF="http://apnawards.com/" target="_blank">APN Awards</a> VIP Tickets.</p>
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		<title>Best 420 Shoot AltPorn Awards 2017 Nominees</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[The official APN 2017 AltPorn Awards nominees for Best 420 Shoot (2016 photo and/or video) Emma-Summers Green Escapade (GodsGirls) Emerald Use The Force (GodsGirls) Jennae Joplin I Heart Dank (Zivity) Emma-Summers Camp Cunt (GodsGirls) Mary-Jane Touch (GodsGirls) Winners are selected based on a combination of votes from the APN judges panel of editorial and writing [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The official APN 2017 AltPorn Awards nominees for Best 420 Shoot (2016 photo and/or video)</p>
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<li><strong><a href="https://altporn.net/news/2016/08/07/godsgirls-join-emma-summers-on-her-naughty-green-escapade/" target="_blank">Emma-Summers Green Escapade (GodsGirls)</a></strong>
<li><strong><a href="https://altporn.net/link/godsgirls.php" target="_blank">Emerald Use The Force (GodsGirls)</a></strong>
<li><strong><a href="https://altporn.net/link/zivity.php" target="_blank">Jennae Joplin I Heart Dank (Zivity)</a></strong>
<li><strong><a href="https://altporn.net/news/2016/04/19/godsgirls-emma-summers-is-a-camp-cunt/" target="_blank">Emma-Summers Camp Cunt (GodsGirls)</a></strong>
<li><strong><a href="https://altporn.net/news/2016/07/26/gods-girls-mary-jane-shows-her-flirty-and-sexy-side/" target="_blank">Mary-Jane Touch (GodsGirls)</a></strong>
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<p>Winners are selected based on a combination of votes from the APN judges panel of editorial and writing staff and suggestions from fans, models, and producers. To contribute to choosing the winners, just hit up our <A HREF="https://altporn.net/contact/">contact form</a> and select ‘Suggestion,’ write ‘2016 APN Award Nomination’ for subject, and let us know the category or categories and your suggested winner(s). You are welcome to ask your friends and fans and collaborators to vote for you. Nominations can also be tweeted at us with hashtag #apnawards to <A HREF="https://twitter.com/AltPornNet" target="_blank">@AltPornNet</a> via the <A HREF="https://twitter.com/AltPornNet" target="_blank">APN Twitter</a> because we want to make it easy for you.</p>
<p>If you are nominated, and don&#8217;t have an email from us yet, you can also contact us for nominee badges and <A HREF="http://apnawards.com/" target="_blank">APN Awards</a> VIP Tickets.</p>
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		<title>Zivity: Shedding Investment</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 00:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Alt/ArtPorn site Zivity is losing a sizable chunk of their initial investment support. Zivity garnered a lot of attention with it&#8217;s widely reported $7 million+ in seed money provided by self described &#8216;mainstream&#8217; tech investors and venture capitalists. The &#8216;web 2.0&#8217; site, which relies heavily on models to submit content and then create their own [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alt/ArtPorn site <a HREF="https://altporn.net/link/zivity.php" target="_blank">Zivity</a> is losing a sizable chunk of their initial investment support. Zivity garnered a lot of attention with it&#8217;s widely reported $7 million+ in seed money provided by self described &#8216;mainstream&#8217; tech investors and venture capitalists. The &#8216;web 2.0&#8217; site, which relies heavily on models to submit content and then create their own buzz in the hopes of earning themselves an eventual payout based on popularity they generate for themselves, rather than opting for a more traditional affiliate sales structure, has not been as wildly successful as had originally been speculated. Their current <a href="http://www.quantcast.com/zivity.com#traffic" target="_blank">Quantified</a> (directly measured) monthly visitors measure out to equal 17.5K people (US) 26.2K (Global). By comparison <a HREF="https://altporn.net/" target="_blank">APN</a> currently measures 32.9K people (US) 66.5K (Global). Those are all directly measured quantified results, which are known to be more reliable than most other traffic measures, especially when being directly compared. So, in order to earn out for their investors more quickly, they have diversified their projects, money, and staff to generate more winners. According to industry sources AVN, XBiz, et al., $3 million of their remaining $4 million and 65% of their current staff are being split off to pursue the success of their new mainstream tabloid <a HREF="http://topfans.com" target="_blank">TopFans.com</a> site, as well as some MySpace games and applications.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always found the Zivity business structure curious, along with the handful of girls that promote it. Nearly every one of the top AltPorn sites pays out at least 50% of sales generated by standard affiliate promotion and some of them give an even higher percentage payout to their models who promote their own appearances. They all pay out in just a couple of weeks too. This has always sounded like a much better deal than the the overly complicated and slow system Zivity offers. So, it&#8217;s not really a big surprise to me that they landed themselves about mid-list at best.</p>
<p>By the way, if anyone has $5 to $7 million burning a hole in their Ed Hardy&#8217;s and wants a successful hot new art/altporn site, hit us up. We&#8217;ll hook you up. Talk to me in the next two weeks and I&#8217;m authorized to cut it to maybe $1.5mil*.</p>
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		<title>EroticBPM: Killshot Opens Up About Zivity, Paypal, Patents, and the Decline of DIY Creativity.</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Killshot, altporn O.G. and long time friend of APN, who has been running EroticBPM for nearly a decade, worked with Fatal Beauty, and also launched SpicePlay in 2004, shared his thoughts on the latest heavily funded venture in the altporn user generated content adult membership site category, Zivity. His points on PayPal and the inherent [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Killshot, altporn O.G. and long time friend of APN,  who has been running <a href="https://altporn.net/link/eroticbpm.php" target="_blank">EroticBPM</a> for nearly a decade, worked with <a href="https://altporn.net/index.php?s=FatalBeauty:">Fatal Beauty</a>, and also launched <a href="https://altporn.net/index.php?s=Spiceplay:">SpicePlay</a> in 2004, shared his thoughts on the latest heavily funded venture in the altporn user generated content adult membership site category, <a href="https://altporn.net/link/zivity.php" target="_blank">Zivity</a>. His points on PayPal and the inherent issues of unfair competition raise some real questions. A lot of people, particularly in the DIY adult site community lost a lot of money when PayPal suddenly radically changed it&#8217;s rules on adult sales and many of them are still reasonably bitter on the point. We have some questions as well about how models and photographers can get excited to contribute for free to a site that might eventually give them a potential payout based on traffic and popularity they have to generate for themselves by spamming their friends for &#8216;votes&#8217; when they could easily make more money simply joining the affiliate programs of nearly any other altporn site and promoting just as hard. Killshot also points out some interesting similarities Zivity has with his Spiceplay site, which we miss a lot. It had some great interactive features and some really innovative ways of sharing the wealth with it&#8217;s participants.</p>
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  <strong><a href="https://altporn.net/link/eroticbpm.php" target="_blank">Killshot of EroticBPM writes</a>:</strong></p>
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Lately I have been hearing more and more about Zivity, a new adult site that pretends not to be an adult site. I largely ignored it even after seeing a few mentions by some members here at <a href="https://altporn.net/link/eroticbpm.php" target="_blank">Ebpm</a>. Then I heard some more details from a friend and started to check into it more.</p>
<p>I signed up for a beta account and got access a couple days later. I looked around a bit and was not really impressed because parts of it as even <a href="http://fleshbot.com/387450/deep-inside-zivity-what-kind-of-porn-site-does-7-million-buy" target="_blank">fleshbot</a> noticed seemed pretty similar to what I did with <a href="https://altporn.net/index.php?s=Spiceplay:">spiceplay</a>. (Sharing revenue with models based on members giving credits to models or each other.) And they even have a patent pending on that.</p>
<p>Yeah there are some pretty girls, some of them are naked, some of them are not, and there is all the basic social features you can expect to have. But nothing else really notable.</p>
<p>The thing that caught my eye the most was the fact that they take paypal. Most people wouldn&#8217;t think twice about that. But talk to anyone in the adult biz and you will probably hear the same story about their account getting banned. Or you may even hear stories about paypal once upon a time courting the business of adult websites (myself included) only to ban them all a few months later when Ebay bought them out.</p>
<p>So why does Zivity get a free pass?<br />
Well, it turns out that Founders Fund and Blue Run Ventures put up the $8 Million in VC funding to get Zivity started. The same people behind paypal and numerous other tech startups. And the people behind Zivity is quite impressive.</p>
<p>Jon Elvekrog &#8211; CEO<br />
According to his bio on Zivity, he has worked for HP, TIBCO, Volex, and helped build LinkExchange</p>
<p>Scott Banister &#8211; Chairman and Co-Founder<br />
Founder of ListBot which sold to Microsoft<br />
VP of Idealab &#8211; sold to AOL<br />
Co-Founder of Ironport &#8211; Sold to Cisco for $830 million</p>
<p>Cyan Banister &#8211; Co Founder and Editor in Chief<br />
Scott Banister&#8217;s wife &#8211; Details on her background are lacking<br />
*edit* Cyan was kind enough to link me to her linkedin profile. She was a senior manager at IronPort and has had a successful career in recruiting for bay area startups. */edit*</p>
<p>Jeffrey Wescott &#8211; Co Founder<br />
Former Ironport engineer</p>
<p>Jordan Ritter &#8211; CTO<br />
Napster Co Founder<br />
Cloudmark CTO<br />
Columbia Music Entertainment CTO</p>
<p>John Manoogian III &#8211; Director of User Experience and Product Design<br />
Worked at Organic Inc<br />
Designed Yahoo&#8217;s homepage and UI<br />
Claims to have invented social bookmarking</p>
<p>So why is this a big deal to me?</p>
<p>The fact that they can use paypal and no other adult company can is only a minor annoyance.</p>
<p>The fact that they are attempting to patent something that is neither new or innovative is a little more concerning and makes sense coming from an industry that is increasingly patenting anything obvious just for the sake of having a large patent portfolio and then suing people.</p>
<p>Non Obvious innovations that took hard work to develop certainly deserve to be patented for a period of time. Obvious patents only serve to stifle innovation and end up doing far more harm than good.</p>
<p>However, the biggest thing that has me going is why are they doing this? Why would all these people decide to get into the adult business? If the VC investors hope to see their money back. Zivity would likely need to maintain a paid membership of over 100,000 users. I really don&#8217;t see them lasting long.</p>
<p>However, if they are successful. I feel that it will be another sad day for all the creative people out there who don&#8217;t have access to piles of money but have plenty of amazing ideas.</p>
<p>Part of what makes the internet great is the ability to share ideas, art, and collaborate with other people to create new things. When big companies and big money comes along and lock down ideas with patents and further stifle creativity by throwing so much money at their project that other people do not even get noticed. Well, it makes the internet less diverse, it puts a lot of money in the hands of a few people, and it certainly takes away a lot of the fun.</p>
<p>Maybe I would feel better if Zivity had come along and done something truly different. But I just don&#8217;t see it.
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		<title>Zivity: Apnea Can Has Schwing</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 09:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Beautiful photographic muse Apnea has demonstrated her charming power to move the masses again with her recently posted Zivity collaboration with SuperCult&#8216;s Chase Lisbon. Their photographic contribution has not only broken the site&#8217;s all time record for most set votes within a 24 hour period, it has also now received more votes than any other [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautiful photographic muse <a HREF="https://altporn.net/link/apneatic.php" target="_blank">Apnea</a> has demonstrated her charming power to move the masses again with her recently posted Zivity collaboration with <a HREF="https://altporn.net/link/supercult.php" target="_blank">SuperCult</a>&#8216;s Chase Lisbon. Their photographic contribution has not only broken the site&#8217;s all time record for most set votes within a 24 hour period, it has also now received more votes than any other set ever posted to the site. I have some reservations about very heavily funded UGC membership sites that not only pay for their content contributions based on &#8216;votes&#8217; (traffic) you as a contributor manage to get yourself by doing their promotion work for them, but also also manage to deliver that payout significantly after they get to use your contribution. People seem excited about the system, but I know a few alt models that have made more money than this set will probably eventually pay out, simply by signing up for the affiliate programs of the alt sites their sets go up on and doing the same sort of self promotion, and they get paid faster too. Anyway, it is good to see Apnea really making a power statement and these really are some very sexy stylish photos deserving of accolade.</p>
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