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		<title>Feeling the Retractions</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[We got an email about three weeks ago from a girl who is the subject of a new solo girl site we&#8217;d written up a few days prior. She emailed us to make the request that we remove the article about the site launch and not ever promote the site she was hired to model [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We got an email about three weeks ago from a girl who is the subject of a new solo girl site we&#8217;d written up a few days prior. She emailed us to make the request that we remove the article about the site launch and not ever promote the site she was hired to model for at all. It was her hope that no high traffic sites like <a href="https://altporn.net">APN</a> would promote the specialty solo girl site she had been hired to model for. Given the specific circumstances, we&#8217;ve decided to comply with her request. In return for the favor of removing any mention of that site (article, links, and galleries have been removed), and partially because it&#8217;s been weeks and we still haven&#8217;t gotten any sort of thanks at all for honoring her dire request, I&#8217;m going to make this post in it&#8217;s place, because this situation brings up some important issues worth talking about. Here is her email request:</p>
<blockquote><p>I know you probably won&#8217;t, but if you could, I&#8217;d like for the post about XXXXXXXXXX to be removed.  See.. I&#8217;m &#8220;XXXXX&#8221; and although it&#8217;s something I did knowingly, I&#8217;d prefer it not be marketed on high traffic sites unless someone is paying you to do so.. then it is out of my hands.  I did what I had to do to get through a pregnancy in a shitty economy where neither myself nor my boyfriend had jobs.</p>
<p>If you can find it in your morale to take it down, I would find that very considerate of you.  Thank you.</p></blockquote>
<p>This brought up a few questions, so I sent them out to her in order to make what I feel is the best judgment. Here are the questions and answers:</p>
<p><strong>What other sites have you modeled for? Do you feel bad about all of them, or just this one?</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>SuicideGirls. I&#8217;ve also done tons of other work earlier in my career including magazine work for Hustler, BarelyLegal.  I did a set for Digital Dream girls as well.  I&#8217;ve gone under the name Samantha, Pistolita and most recently XXXXX.. for this site. I only regret this one, simply because it involves my child.  And unfortunately I had no other income options at the time, being pregnant I couldn&#8217;t get a job before needing maternity leave.  I was between a rock and a hard place at the time, and have already been paid for all my work with the site.  So no royalties are given to me from member joins.  Therefore, I would rather not see it advertised.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Did you give the money you made from doing the job back? If not, do you plan to?</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>Like I previously stated, I can&#8217;t take away what I did.  The money I made during the 4 months of shooting for the site got me through the last 4 months and the first 2 months of my childs life.  So I can&#8217;t just give back the money.  That&#8217;s $XXXX that I don&#8217;t have anymore.  I can&#8217;t take the site down.  I just ask that you not advertise it on your site.  I&#8217;ve had 3 friends already see it and ask me about it.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>How do we know it&#8217;s really you? People write to us more frequently than you might guess, pretending to be various models. We are more likely to honor your request if we know it is genuine.</strong></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going to post the results of that last one because it would be creepy, but I do believe it is her, so that answer was satisfactory.</p>
<p>Starting with the obvious or maybe rhetorical at least, why does it seem like it&#8217;s always a SuicideGirl in this kind of drama? Experienced or not, every model should really know by now that they should assume their friends are going to see what they do and that should always be a consideration. If you don&#8217;t know, now you know.</p>
<p>But, beyond that, she doesn&#8217;t get royalties? Duh. We hear this &#8216;no royalties&#8217; complaint a lot from girls, but that&#8217;s almost never the terms they worked under in the first place. Very few sites have anything resembling a royalty system and if that is what a model wants, she should have negotiated that when the deal was made to begin with. It doesn&#8217;t matter how long the job is, one hour, a half day, or even four months, if she takes a flat fee job, she gets exactly that, a flat fee. The world isn&#8217;t evil for not giving her something she didn&#8217;t have a deal to get in the first place. The model on the cover of Vogue doesn&#8217;t get a percentage of sales, and she doesn&#8217;t get to pull the magazine off all the news racks just because she doesn&#8217;t like the dress they hired her to wear. I have a lot of respect for the hard working models that put a lot into what they do, but I&#8217;ve also seen too many that quickly start accusing others of being immoral or crooked whenever they don&#8217;t get whatever they want, even if it wasn&#8217;t what they agreed to from the start.</p>
<p>You want to run your own site? Then run your own site. You want to get royalties? Then make a partnership deal that includes royalties. You want to get paid hourly, or a day rate even, for modeling work? That&#8217;s good too. But do not whine to the world that you didn&#8217;t get what you were never supposed to get in the first place. It makes it hard to respect you as an intelligent person.</p>
<p>Some girls partner to do their sites with professionals, and some of those girls get a percentage of the earnings, but most of the time, it&#8217;s work for hire modeling, sometimes followed by work for hire participation, if they are lucky. Here is how it works: The site owner pays her to model, then pays a photographer and/or videographer to shoot with her, then pays retoucher/editor to make the media nice looking, then pays designer and coder to build a good looking salable site, then pays the host to put the site up and cover bandwidth usages, and then pays another designer to build sales tools like promotional galleries, banners, then sometimes even pays public relations reps and/or affiliate reps to get the word out about the site launch, etc. and at the end of the day, they hope that all those costs come out to be less than they earn back by having &#8216;high traffic sites&#8217; like APN promote the finished project to people who might be interested enough to join it. That is a lot of work and a lot of investment into what will hopefully turn into a successful site. If a model gets her cut and then tells all the big sites not to promote what was created with her content, that is immoral. It&#8217;s bad business at the very least. Everybody has bills to pay. Her child doesn&#8217;t deserve to eat any more than all the other people doing their job to put food on their table.</p>
<p>Models, a word of advice. Think about what you are doing before you agree to do it. Think about why you are doing it and whether you will be happy once it is done. You owe the people you are working with honest commitment to your agreements. Creating erotic media is not evil or immoral and if you think it is, you have no business in this field at all. Taking the money and burning the people who hired you to do a job is wrong. It is wrong to be accusing other people of being immoral just because you selectively changed your mind on an agreement as well.</p>
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