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		By: BABY SINEAD		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BABY SINEAD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 02:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] I just signed up with Hardcore Modeling which considering Model Mayhems lack of tolerance towards erotica/porn might turn out to be a worthwhile site. We&#8217;ll [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] I just signed up with Hardcore Modeling which considering Model Mayhems lack of tolerance towards erotica/porn might turn out to be a worthwhile site. We&#8217;ll [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Siocha		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Fedora says: I feel very singled out. The moderators gave no information about their intentions to eradicate ModelMayhem from whores like us. They simply said that Playboy is mainstream, SuicideGirls is art, not porn, and my site is pornographic simply because I require a subscription fee.

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SG asks a subscription fee as well, so shouldn&#039;t they be referred to as &quot;PORN&quot; as well? I know how much everyone at MM talks about SG... I&#039;m glad you posted all this, and the conversation you had with the moderator!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fedora says: I feel very singled out. The moderators gave no information about their intentions to eradicate ModelMayhem from whores like us. They simply said that Playboy is mainstream, SuicideGirls is art, not porn, and my site is pornographic simply because I require a subscription fee.</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>SG asks a subscription fee as well, so shouldn&#8217;t they be referred to as &#8220;PORN&#8221; as well? I know how much everyone at MM talks about SG&#8230; I&#8217;m glad you posted all this, and the conversation you had with the moderator!</p>
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		By: Studio6Girls.com		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Studio6Girls.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 05:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[MY POST FROM MODEL MAYHEM:

So, I&#039;m a newbie here and was on here for a few days before my account was removed for &quot;Networking in Porn&quot;. I was not networking in it. I simply had my registered company name as my member name and a link to my website. But it was NOT mentioned anywhere in my profile (Which I&#039;m still working on).

When I CAM&#039;d and asked why my profile was removed after I had taken the link down I was told that &quot;It was my name&quot;. My name was not vulgar or obscene and is a  registered LLC. So, I had to change my name to what it is currently. An abbreviated form of my real company name.

I am not here to promote porn or the adult side of my business but to network and find models that aren&#039;t &quot;Adult Actresses&quot; to help me improve my glamour work and to maybe help me get into artistic.

MY QUESTION IS:

Is there a double standard here?

There are several models on here with names such as &quot;Model Suicide&quot; and &quot;Blah, Blah Boring Suicide&quot; with profiles that actively promote Suicide Girls (including links to the site).

There are also SEVERAL members with whole sections of their profiles dedicated to promoting their adult, paid members sites. One quote is &quot;Lastly My Pay Site &quot; and &quot;doesn&#039;t mean I live to spend every day with a dildo stuffed up me, my legs wide open&quot; (Edited to prevent me from &quot;Outing&quot; the person, even though I&#039;m not sure what the rules are in that area)

So, is there a double standard? If you are a hot model, with lots of nudes up and you bring traffic to the site it&#039;s okay for you to promote it?

OPEN TO COMMENTS:]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MY POST FROM MODEL MAYHEM:</p>
<p>So, I&#8217;m a newbie here and was on here for a few days before my account was removed for &#8220;Networking in Porn&#8221;. I was not networking in it. I simply had my registered company name as my member name and a link to my website. But it was NOT mentioned anywhere in my profile (Which I&#8217;m still working on).</p>
<p>When I CAM&#8217;d and asked why my profile was removed after I had taken the link down I was told that &#8220;It was my name&#8221;. My name was not vulgar or obscene and is a  registered LLC. So, I had to change my name to what it is currently. An abbreviated form of my real company name.</p>
<p>I am not here to promote porn or the adult side of my business but to network and find models that aren&#8217;t &#8220;Adult Actresses&#8221; to help me improve my glamour work and to maybe help me get into artistic.</p>
<p>MY QUESTION IS:</p>
<p>Is there a double standard here?</p>
<p>There are several models on here with names such as &#8220;Model Suicide&#8221; and &#8220;Blah, Blah Boring Suicide&#8221; with profiles that actively promote Suicide Girls (including links to the site).</p>
<p>There are also SEVERAL members with whole sections of their profiles dedicated to promoting their adult, paid members sites. One quote is &#8220;Lastly My Pay Site &#8221; and &#8220;doesn&#8217;t mean I live to spend every day with a dildo stuffed up me, my legs wide open&#8221; (Edited to prevent me from &#8220;Outing&#8221; the person, even though I&#8217;m not sure what the rules are in that area)</p>
<p>So, is there a double standard? If you are a hot model, with lots of nudes up and you bring traffic to the site it&#8217;s okay for you to promote it?</p>
<p>OPEN TO COMMENTS:</p>
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		By: Vestige		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vestige]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 00:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[An Alt-Modeling talent site...I&#039;d sign up for that]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An Alt-Modeling talent site&#8230;I&#8217;d sign up for that</p>
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		By: Sun Karma		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sun Karma]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Which is precisely why I stay off that site with all the bullshit. It&#039;s trifling...
Frankly, I think there should be an alt model site like MM that just networks alt models (not like wickedtalent.com-which I love- but more of a networking site) and that would allow more esteemed vets to post anything they want. Fuck them. Lets start our own thing. That is the only way we will have control over it, I say.

I have an MM profile, an OMP profile..and right now I don&#039;t give a fuck if everything is deleted. I haven&#039;t gotten shit but crap off of there...more power to &#039;em. I get more on my own!

Sun &quot;da bitch&quot; Karma]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which is precisely why I stay off that site with all the bullshit. It&#8217;s trifling&#8230;<br />
Frankly, I think there should be an alt model site like MM that just networks alt models (not like wickedtalent.com-which I love- but more of a networking site) and that would allow more esteemed vets to post anything they want. Fuck them. Lets start our own thing. That is the only way we will have control over it, I say.</p>
<p>I have an MM profile, an OMP profile..and right now I don&#8217;t give a fuck if everything is deleted. I haven&#8217;t gotten shit but crap off of there&#8230;more power to &#8217;em. I get more on my own!</p>
<p>Sun &#8220;da bitch&#8221; Karma</p>
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		By: Aeryn's Irony		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aeryn's Irony]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I had the same problem with MM. Granted my stuff isn&#039;t half as cool as fedorasbox, but its still utterly crap.

Wankers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the same problem with MM. Granted my stuff isn&#8217;t half as cool as fedorasbox, but its still utterly crap.</p>
<p>Wankers.</p>
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		By: Fedora		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fedora]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 06:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Agreed. I do not claim to be the only one to have this debate with model mayhem and agree they should define rules before attempting to enforce them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed. I do not claim to be the only one to have this debate with model mayhem and agree they should define rules before attempting to enforce them.</p>
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		By: AltPorn		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 04:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[KT&#039;s point is that you are not singled out. There are a lot of models and site owners that have had this debate with moderators on MM. Once you get in a debate with them, they never want to budge, but they should just have a clear rule. I think they should remove all adult credits and all adult casting. In the last two years or so, there has never been a time that some mysteriously unheard of girl isn&#039;t making a thread about &#039;what are your thoughts about SuicideGirls&#039; so they can generate drama and branding. Adult paysites are adult paysites and either they can have them or not. So long as their models and photographers pretend to not have anything to do with adult, it&#039;s all ok, but it&#039;s not like we don&#039;t know what most of their people actually shoot. Enforcing a group lie is just wrong. When it comes to adult work, people should be encouraged to be honest and open about what they do. Otherwise you get girls claiming they don&#039;t do nudes when most of their port is naked and photographers who are unwilling to admit what sites they are actually booking you for. To have everyone nudge nudge wink wink is actually dangerous.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KT&#8217;s point is that you are not singled out. There are a lot of models and site owners that have had this debate with moderators on MM. Once you get in a debate with them, they never want to budge, but they should just have a clear rule. I think they should remove all adult credits and all adult casting. In the last two years or so, there has never been a time that some mysteriously unheard of girl isn&#8217;t making a thread about &#8216;what are your thoughts about SuicideGirls&#8217; so they can generate drama and branding. Adult paysites are adult paysites and either they can have them or not. So long as their models and photographers pretend to not have anything to do with adult, it&#8217;s all ok, but it&#8217;s not like we don&#8217;t know what most of their people actually shoot. Enforcing a group lie is just wrong. When it comes to adult work, people should be encouraged to be honest and open about what they do. Otherwise you get girls claiming they don&#8217;t do nudes when most of their port is naked and photographers who are unwilling to admit what sites they are actually booking you for. To have everyone nudge nudge wink wink is actually dangerous.</p>
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		By: Fedora		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fedora]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The awesome part of all this is that they want to enforce rules that are not clearly defined.

I feel very singled out. The moderators gave no information about their intentions to eradicate ModelMayhem from whores like us. They simply said that Playboy is mainstream, SuicideGirls is art, not porn, and my site is pornographic simply because I require a subscription fee.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The awesome part of all this is that they want to enforce rules that are not clearly defined.</p>
<p>I feel very singled out. The moderators gave no information about their intentions to eradicate ModelMayhem from whores like us. They simply said that Playboy is mainstream, SuicideGirls is art, not porn, and my site is pornographic simply because I require a subscription fee.</p>
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		By: Leila		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leila]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Huh, that&#039;s weird. I have all of the site&#039;s I&#039;ve worked for listed on my MM profile including alt-porn sites, and even sites with hardcore/fetish porn and no one has ever said anything to me. I&#039;ve seen a lot of other people who list fetish and alt-porn sites too. It sounds like a case of selective censorship to me.

I&#039;m personally pissed that my avatar can&#039;t have nudity.  I just think I look a lot better naked :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh, that&#8217;s weird. I have all of the site&#8217;s I&#8217;ve worked for listed on my MM profile including alt-porn sites, and even sites with hardcore/fetish porn and no one has ever said anything to me. I&#8217;ve seen a lot of other people who list fetish and alt-porn sites too. It sounds like a case of selective censorship to me.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m personally pissed that my avatar can&#8217;t have nudity.  I just think I look a lot better naked 🙂</p>
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		By: athenahollow		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[athenahollow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That is such utter bullshit. I have all sorts of porn references on my profile, yet not a single mod has said anything, and I used to post in the shoutbox daily.

And yes, they would be screwed if they made all of the alt models on there remove references to the sites they have worked for, as most of them would just say &quot;Fuck you&quot; and leave.

It&#039;s such bull that you can post nudes, but you can&#039;t reference &quot;adult sites&quot;, even if they are like mine and have a splash screen that clearly states &quot;YOU MUST BE 18 TO ENTER&quot;. Elitist Pricks. They think they are the entrance to mainstream modeling, but they are just another place for drama to ensue, much like myspace with a eating disorder.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is such utter bullshit. I have all sorts of porn references on my profile, yet not a single mod has said anything, and I used to post in the shoutbox daily.</p>
<p>And yes, they would be screwed if they made all of the alt models on there remove references to the sites they have worked for, as most of them would just say &#8220;Fuck you&#8221; and leave.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s such bull that you can post nudes, but you can&#8217;t reference &#8220;adult sites&#8221;, even if they are like mine and have a splash screen that clearly states &#8220;YOU MUST BE 18 TO ENTER&#8221;. Elitist Pricks. They think they are the entrance to mainstream modeling, but they are just another place for drama to ensue, much like myspace with a eating disorder.</p>
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