AltPorn.net has gotten a lot of mail from people who miss our AltPorn Traffic and Rankings stories, so I’ve been invited back for another addition. This installment covers the QuantCast Estimated Monthly Visitors metrics. Quantcast has earned itself the reputation as being the most accurate traffic analysis tool available to the general public and is widely accepted as being far less gamable than other popular measures. QuantCast has changed their rankings reporting mechanism since my last traffic study installment and now only reports statistical numerical ranking measurements for sites that actually include their ‘Quantified’ measurement tool directly in their code. However, their Estimated Monthly Visitors statistics are still available for all. EMV is a good stat, as it gives a realistic feel for how many visitors a site is really getting in an average month, so that is what we will be using. We’ve tried to compile as complete a site list as we can, although we do exclude solo girls sites. If you have sites you feel should be included, please contact us and make your suggestions. For example, we debated the inclusion of Zivity, contact us if you have an opinion either way.

You will notice the addition of a few new AltPorn sites, some of which are doing phenomenally well, such as My Emo Bitch and Amateur Emo Girls. These sites reflect the recent popularity of ‘ex-girlfriend’ sites in online adult. They operate on the pretense that angry boyfriends upload embarrassing naked pictures of their former girlfriends for everybody to see. It’s depressing that this sub-genre is as popular as it is, but it goes to show that being popular doesn’t always mean being cool or good. These sites should still be included as they do reflect a realistic assessment of what people are looking at these days though. You may also notice APN has made a few adjustments to the AltPorn A-List. Inactive sites like RazorDolls are being removed. RazorDolls was a fun and sexy site, but it hasn’t updated in years. It was a good example of the AltPorn genre, but sending people there to join a dead site seemed wrong and/or unfair. We’ll hold out hope RD gets back on it’s feet, but for now it joins the ranks of ManicJane, FatalBeauty, SpicePlay, CityKittie, PornForPunks, and all the other dead AltPorn sites that once had interesting alternative content we’ve enjoyed.

These statistics are best evaluated as relative, rather than absolute. If you feel your favorite site gets more visitors, then consider that all sites measured probably get more visitors, as they are all measured with the same criteria. For example, judging by our own internal stats measures AltPorn.net gets an average of 101,000 unique visitors a month, but QuantCast only counts 57,868, and we’re actually Quantified. Here are the AltPorn Estimated Visitors Rankings for mid November, 2009:

MyEmoBitch.com, AmateurEmoGirls.com, SuicideGirls.com, GodsGirls.com, AltPorn.net, BurningAngel.com, BlueBlood.net, RubberDollies.com, BarelyEvil.com, GothicSluts.com, CrazyBabe.com, BurntFilm.com, PunkGrl.com, GeekGirlsOnline.com, DarkPlay.net, EroticBPM.net, DeviantNation.com, BlueBlood.com, BellaVendetta.com, PunkRockGirlfriend.com, NoFauxxx.com, InkyGirls.com, RazorDolls.com, PunkPinups.com, SuperCult.com, StaggStreet.com, BrokenDollz.com, Lazerbunny.com, EroticBPM.com, FuckMeInTheBathroom.com, BigBoobsAreCool.com, CumOnMyTattoo.com, PovPunx.com, PaybackBaby.com, HoleAndAHeartbeat.com

We got an email about three weeks ago from a girl who is the subject of a new solo girl site we’d written up a few days prior. She emailed us to make the request that we remove the article about the site launch and not ever promote the site she was hired to model for at all. It was her hope that no high traffic sites like APN would promote the specialty solo girl site she had been hired to model for. Given the specific circumstances, we’ve decided to comply with her request. In return for the favor of removing any mention of that site (article, links, and galleries have been removed), and partially because it’s been weeks and we still haven’t gotten any sort of thanks at all for honoring her dire request, I’m going to make this post in it’s place, because this situation brings up some important issues worth talking about. Here is her email request:

I know you probably won’t, but if you could, I’d like for the post about XXXXXXXXXX to be removed. See.. I’m “XXXXX” and although it’s something I did knowingly, I’d prefer it not be marketed on high traffic sites unless someone is paying you to do so.. then it is out of my hands. I did what I had to do to get through a pregnancy in a shitty economy where neither myself nor my boyfriend had jobs.

If you can find it in your morale to take it down, I would find that very considerate of you. Thank you.

This brought up a few questions, so I sent them out to her in order to make what I feel is the best judgment. Here are the questions and answers:

What other sites have you modeled for? Do you feel bad about all of them, or just this one?

SuicideGirls. I’ve also done tons of other work earlier in my career including magazine work for Hustler, BarelyLegal. I did a set for Digital Dream girls as well. I’ve gone under the name Samantha, Pistolita and most recently XXXXX.. for this site. I only regret this one, simply because it involves my child. And unfortunately I had no other income options at the time, being pregnant I couldn’t get a job before needing maternity leave. I was between a rock and a hard place at the time, and have already been paid for all my work with the site. So no royalties are given to me from member joins. Therefore, I would rather not see it advertised.

Did you give the money you made from doing the job back? If not, do you plan to?

Like I previously stated, I can’t take away what I did. The money I made during the 4 months of shooting for the site got me through the last 4 months and the first 2 months of my childs life. So I can’t just give back the money. That’s $XXXX that I don’t have anymore. I can’t take the site down. I just ask that you not advertise it on your site. I’ve had 3 friends already see it and ask me about it.

How do we know it’s really you? People write to us more frequently than you might guess, pretending to be various models. We are more likely to honor your request if we know it is genuine.

I’m not going to post the results of that last one because it would be creepy, but I do believe it is her, so that answer was satisfactory.

Starting with the obvious or maybe rhetorical at least, why does it seem like it’s always a SuicideGirl in this kind of drama? Experienced or not, every model should really know by now that they should assume their friends are going to see what they do and that should always be a consideration. If you don’t know, now you know.

But, beyond that, she doesn’t get royalties? Duh. We hear this ‘no royalties’ complaint a lot from girls, but that’s almost never the terms they worked under in the first place. Very few sites have anything resembling a royalty system and if that is what a model wants, she should have negotiated that when the deal was made to begin with. It doesn’t matter how long the job is, one hour, a half day, or even four months, if she takes a flat fee job, she gets exactly that, a flat fee. The world isn’t evil for not giving her something she didn’t have a deal to get in the first place. The model on the cover of Vogue doesn’t get a percentage of sales, and she doesn’t get to pull the magazine off all the news racks just because she doesn’t like the dress they hired her to wear. I have a lot of respect for the hard working models that put a lot into what they do, but I’ve also seen too many that quickly start accusing others of being immoral or crooked whenever they don’t get whatever they want, even if it wasn’t what they agreed to from the start.

You want to run your own site? Then run your own site. You want to get royalties? Then make a partnership deal that includes royalties. You want to get paid hourly, or a day rate even, for modeling work? That’s good too. But do not whine to the world that you didn’t get what you were never supposed to get in the first place. It makes it hard to respect you as an intelligent person.

Some girls partner to do their sites with professionals, and some of those girls get a percentage of the earnings, but most of the time, it’s work for hire modeling, sometimes followed by work for hire participation, if they are lucky. Here is how it works: The site owner pays her to model, then pays a photographer and/or videographer to shoot with her, then pays retoucher/editor to make the media nice looking, then pays designer and coder to build a good looking salable site, then pays the host to put the site up and cover bandwidth usages, and then pays another designer to build sales tools like promotional galleries, banners, then sometimes even pays public relations reps and/or affiliate reps to get the word out about the site launch, etc. and at the end of the day, they hope that all those costs come out to be less than they earn back by having ‘high traffic sites’ like APN promote the finished project to people who might be interested enough to join it. That is a lot of work and a lot of investment into what will hopefully turn into a successful site. If a model gets her cut and then tells all the big sites not to promote what was created with her content, that is immoral. It’s bad business at the very least. Everybody has bills to pay. Her child doesn’t deserve to eat any more than all the other people doing their job to put food on their table.

Models, a word of advice. Think about what you are doing before you agree to do it. Think about why you are doing it and whether you will be happy once it is done. You owe the people you are working with honest commitment to your agreements. Creating erotic media is not evil or immoral and if you think it is, you have no business in this field at all. Taking the money and burning the people who hired you to do a job is wrong. It is wrong to be accusing other people of being immoral just because you selectively changed your mind on an agreement as well.

For people still keeping score in the never ending antagonistic relationship between GodsGirls and SuicideGirls, the viral mock SG site SewersideGirls.com has just been turned into a GodsGirls promotional pic-of-the-day site. I don’t expect a lot of people to really care about this, but I think it’s interesting.

One of my favorite things about the altporn genre is that the women in it tend to be more than just a hot face and body. BlueBlood’s Amelia G recently wrote an article about shooting clothing made of trash at a strip fashion show at an unusual strip club in Portland. The strip clubs in Portland are known to have all kinds of tattooed hotness. The sexy trash clothes were all made by BlueBlood model Rachel Face. This is the same girl who is known as Rivets on BurningAngel, Rachael Reckless on DeviantNation, and Marie on SuicideGirls. Anyway, I like that Rachel Face does creative crafting and I like that BlueBlood does news coverage on what their models are doing, like the Trash Factory article, along with the most awesome free gallery of tattooed hotness evar.

Read the article here and see the hot free gallery here.

I caught this hilarious post by Lux Nightmare on Fleshbot the other morning and thought it was just too funny not to share.

The underlying story of how Philip Warner, AKA Lithium Picnic is back to cheerfully promoting and defending SuicideGirls however is really disappointing. When he found himself at odds with his exclusionary employer SuicideGirls, he cried far and wide, pleading for everyone in the scene to take up his cause with his ‘Free Lithium Picnic’ merch machine and calls for benefit art shows and donation drives, etc. There wasn’t a place on the internet that someone could mention that they kind of think maybe altporn bully SuicideGirls is a ‘blight on our scene’ or whatever without at least a handful of LP supporters and questionable sock puppets interjecting ‘Free Lithium Picnic’ at every turn. Yet somehow the rhetoric seemed mismatched with what few facts had emerged about the $100,000 breach of contract case SuicideGirls had brought against Philip. Although we have been supportive of getting the facts out there as best we can in the past, we’ve never really bought in to the ensuing hype, despite the well intentioned efforts of sites like DeviantNation, who went so far as to pass along a neat little ‘Free Lithium Picnic’ chipin donation flash widgets that they wanted sites like APN to to run so that Philip could generate more funds.

One of the main reasons we do not cover SuicideGirls more often here at APN is that we’ve seen SuicideGirls notoriously controlling contracts and frankly, they don’t look that difficult to find yourself in breach of. I could see participating in legal fee fund raisers and other charity events once the court found Philip Warner not guilty, but if he was guilty of breach, then giving him money would just be a waste. APN attempted to interview Lithium Picnic about what the fight with SG was actually over, but we were informed that we would only be able to interview Apnea instead, as he was not supposed to discuss legal issues pertaining to the case. Not that we ever mind talking to hot and adorable Apnea and she was very helpful and informative in every interaction. However if, like APN, you have been wondering about the actual details of this legal battle, Lux Nightmare’s Fleshbot post links to where Amelia G over at BlueBlood.net wrote SuicideGirls vs Lithium Picnic Lawsuit Settled, which is an excellent deconstruction of the lawsuit and the community’s response to it. The feeling over there seems to be that Apnea is innocent, but LP is at the very least guilty of selling out the principles he asked so many to sacrifice for and support. Not that we mind if ultra sexy and cute Apnea turns out to be the only good guy in the whole legal mess.

I guess what I’m saying is that I’ve never been 100% convinced Lithium Picnic was actually innocent. He worked for SuicideGirls for a long time. He was there when they we’re pulling all sorts of shady business with their models. One falling out among a clan of bad people doesn’t suddenly transform someone into being the good guy. It would be nice if he were innocent, but there was a strong chance he actually wasn’t. We were looking forward to the court’s decision to make everything clear.

Since we are catching up on a few things. Here are the latest Compete.com rankings for our continuing AltPorn A-List Traffic and Popularity Study. Compete.com reports on a monthly basis, with statistic totals showing from the previous month. This means these are December 2007 stats, not up to the minute, according to Compete.com. The only real news here is the impressive entry of newer sites like GeekGirlsOnline and PunkGrl, hitting the chart in solid positions. CrazyBabe swapped positions with BlueBlood’s GothicSluts, as also reported on the QuantCast stats from yesterday. Otherwise, several sites slipped a slot or two as new sites entered the rankings.

We’ve had some shakeup in the monthly QuantCast edition of our AltPorn A-List Traffic and Site Popularity Study. Bob Coulter’s CrazyBabe pops up to the top of the chart, swapping positions with last month’s leader BlueBlood’s GothicSluts. SuicideGirls holds position two, followed again by BlueBlood’s BarelyEvil, also unchanged in position. The exciting news is the dramatic entry of GeekGirlsOnline, with a statistical debut all the way up in position seven. Nice work Athena Hollow! AltPorn.net slipped three spots, which we deserve for not updating for a couple weeks. Although, GodsGirls fell three as well. PunkGrl is entering the ranks well, up five spots, to position seventeen, and BellaVendetta has fallen the hardest of the group this month, losing six slots and ending up ranking twenty second of the AltPorn A-List.

I’d like to apologize, on behalf of everyone at APN. We’ve all simultaneously been overwhelmed with project work. I hear we may be interviewing for some more writer positions in the near future, so keep on the lookout for that. As always, we want to hear from you about new sites that should be ranked and added to the charts.

* Rank: Works like Alexa, lower is better.
** EMV: Estimated Monthly Visitors

Happy New Year everyone. We hope you all had a good time and we look forward to a great oh-eight. This month’s AltPorn A-List Traffic and Popularity Study Alexa Edition brings us little change in the standings. BlueBlood’s punky BarelyEvil got a bit of a December bounce, moving up three spots to take the number three spot, rising above their GothicSluts site, as well as Bob Coulter’s CrazyBabe and NaughtyFlipside. It looks like NaughtyFlipside did just enough content to put out a DVD and had not put up anything new since. Should we keep them on the chart as long as they are live, or should there be a limit on non-updating sites? What are your opinions? On the lower rungs of the rankings, relatively young site PunkGrl continued to rise, up two spots, along with another recent addition LazerBunny, also up two spots. Plus, we’ve just added newcomer GeekGirlsOnline, which debuts in slot 21. As always, we encourage your suggestions for more ways to measure the most accurate public measures of AltPorn site traffic and popularity.

With school being so busy this time of year, all of us have been pretty preoccupied over here with family and holidays, I’ve slipped a little on providing the December QuantCast results from our AltPorn A-List Traffic and Site Popularity Study, but without further ado here it is.

Although SuicideGirls traffic continues a downward trend, they have risen one spot in the rankings to regain second place, behind BlueBlood’s GothicSluts, edging out BlueBlood’s punky BarelyEvil. NaughtyFlipside managed to pick up a few spots, even though they have not updated in what seems like forever. We, AltPorn.net, have fallen a couple spots, probably due to more sporadic updates around the holidays and finals. DarkPlay seems to have gotten an interesting boost, while DeviantNation and NoFauxxx seem to be trending down this month.

* Rank: Works like Alexa, lower is better.
** EMV: Estimated Monthly Visitors

We managed to miss the late November Compete.com edition of our AltPorn A-List Traffic and Popularity Study, due in part to Thanksgiving, but some of the feedback we’ve been getting would indicate a desire to measure and publish the various third party traffic and popularity statistics on the same days. We’ve given it some thought and we’ll give it a try. So, along with today’s Alexa chart, you also get the Compete.com chart, both measured on December first, 2007. If this is popular, we may move the QuantCast measures and charts to the first of every month for the coming year 2008 as well.

The December Compete numbers are a little more interesting than the Alexa measures, or at least there is a little more positional movement. BlueBlood’s GothicSluts, as well as their BarelyEvil sites have moved up significantly in estimated monthly visitors taking spots two and three respectively, knocking CrazyBabe down to position four this month. We (AltPorn.net) have actually grown in visitors this month, up 55.4% over last month (six weeks really) and up an impressive 383.4% for the year. BrokenDolls is also bumping up significantly, while InkyGirls have fallen off a number of spots. Compete.com still doesn’t have measures for the newcomer sites PunkGrl and LazerBunny, which I feel they should have by now, so no measures for them yet.