It’s getting to be the time of year that we start thinking about replacing that old wall calendar and we’re happy to see our friends over at Payback Baby offering a hot 2010 calendar to take it’s place. I really enjoy Mette Th13teen’s photos as well as a lot of the people she has contributing sets to Payback Baby and her models seem really cool and real. This looks like a good product for my office. Featured pictures include some of our favorite models too, like Siren, Ivony Heart, Yvette Star, Aylin Tempest, Cherry Darlin, Gayle Fett, Kiwi, Sarah, and Mette Th13teen herself. You can check out the Artamatik site to see the layout and pick up your copy.

We’ve featured Mette Th13teen and her sexy fun photography before, and now that she’s launched her multi-girl AltPorn social site Payback Baby, we thought we’d check in with her and see how it’s all going. From exploring Payback Baby myself, I can say that it’s already shaping up to be a friendly supportive and diverse community with a growing number of interesting people. Having it based overseas gives it a different feel. The people are not the same old scene we’re used to seeing on some of the more established AltPorn sites. Some aspects of Payback Baby do still need a little work, but that’s only because it really is a DIY project, rather than being launched by a multi-million dollar company pretending to be two stoners from Seattle or whatever. I really enjoy the photography, although I’m still not a fan of flash viewers at all, and I wish they used a sans serif font, but these are mostly cosmetic gripes and personal preferences. The site it’s self is enjoyable so far and I believe it will continue in a good direction. We’ve already made some really hot friends on Payback Baby and I love the general attitude of the site.

Payback Baby offers some of the same community features you’d expect form an AltPorn site these days, blogs, interest groups, polls, and that sort or thing, but what makes theirs more enjoyable is the people involved. The topics are fun and the members are worth interacting with. The photography is very stylish and sexy. It’s not quite as explicit as I might personally prefer in a membership site, but it has a quality I enjoy and it isn’t the same old thing over and over like some other sites. I can honestly say that Payback Baby is one of my favorite new AltPorn sites. Here is some more info on the site and what it was like to launch and such from Mette Th13teen herself.

How has the launch of Payback Baby gone so far? I’ve noticed some really cool people with profiles over there already.

It is going fine, better than expected when it comes to getting members but the members aren’t as active as hoped for, to be honest! The main idea with making it a community with personal profiles, was to give the members a chance to interact and have fun while looking at hot, naked women?! It sounds like perfection to me but I guess, most other fans of alt. erotica feel differently.. Sneaking a peek is probably more dirty than being upfront about it But yeah, we are all happy – I know, I am! I am not the most patient lady out there so a little more action in a little less time would rock but hey, I am really content with the progress so far! As long as we keep getting applications from new models and new members join, I have no reason to complain really…

Now that you have launched, what is your favorite section of the site?

I don’t have one, I think.. Of course, the sets are a pretty big hit with me since I love shooting them both as a model and a photographer!! But the great part is that we have international models also and they have sent in some amazing work and that really makes me go all giddy There are some HOT models out there modeling for some really talented photographers and it is really nice to see that these people want to be a part of a thing, I created! What else…?! I do love the personal profiles and photo albums since that is not a thing all alt. erotica site have these days – that makes us a little different from all the other newcomers the past couple of years.. Also, the groups are fun – I get to know what makes these people tick, what gets them off?! I am a people person, so that is also a great feature on the site..

Hmm… I learned that the we have this thing called “Janteloven” here in Denmark – we are not that many alt. models in Denmark and certainly not that many alt. fetish models in Denmark so I did know that “Janteloven” existed.. The ignorance kinda blew me away though.. I try to just turn the other cheek, but I am not a huge fan of ignorance or arrogance so my temper took the better of me a couple of times before I learned to just don’t give a fuck a let them lead their own miserable existence without my opinion But other then that, it was kinda what I expected it would be! A lot of hard work, tears and sweat but totally worth it! I have been modeling for a couple of sites and been around for some years now and I have learned a thing a two that were nice to have when starting up my own site.. I have been working with people all my life and a lot of those experiences are pretty good to have too! Not every one takes things as serious as I do, not everyone will deliver on time as I will and so on – I am very old fashioned in that way, respect, responsibility and so on. There is a lot of things, I still need to learn as a person to make it all a bit smoother but I do think, I have some nice qualities too when it comes to leading a site

What exactly is ‘Janteloven’?

Janteloven is a set of rules from and old Danish book in the 30′es that the Scandinavian people kinda adopted.. It lives well here in Denmark and basically it is these 10 commandments to live by. To sum them all up, it would be something like “Don’t think you’re anyone special or that you’re better than us” – I found a link that describes it very well.

Launching a new site, especially with all those features, is always more work than you probably think it will be. I can’t help but notice that the navigation is still a little quirky. What has been the most challenging part of putting the site together?

Probably finding a guy to work with on it, the 1st couple of guys bailed on me and with very little finance, it wasn’t easy! I did a lot of work on the site as it looks now but not all – I am not very good with codes and shit, so my bf did that and I am very happy that he came through for me… I know that the backend of Payback Baby! isn’t the best, but considering what we had to work with in the end, I am pretty damn proud of the site! I never cared about those things as a model, I cared more about getting my fair share of respect from the owners, getting replies on my emails rather fast instead of having to wait for months, that the site didnt look like complete and utter crap, the quality of the photo sets, that the site updates went up on time and so on.. So Im hoping that people care about these things too and in time, the sites backend will improve so be patient, guys Like you noticed it isn’t completely perfect yet but we are still working on it and still learning..

It completely depends on the community! If it is the getting the good old cock pic once in awhile that bothers you, Facebook or Myspace is way worse than these alt. erotica sites! In our case, it was actually photographers, film makers and so on. Before launching the beta site, a lot a those guys wrote my personally and gave me a really hard time; I would never get anywhere, no one would ever want to work with me and so on. Some even came after me personally, apparently I am butch, ugly, come off German (I don’t even wanna know what he meant by that) and so on?! After launching the public site, these guys had the nerve to come back and join the site, try to sell shoots to members and some of the models and so on.. That is why we made the changes in our Terms Of Use! No fucking way in hell, call me uptight and what not but I will not play that way and let those assholes prey on my ladies and members!

Other than that, its pretty basic; be nice to the girls, play nice and show some respect! Up until now, we have only had trouble with 1 model and 1 member that resulted in them leaving the site less then voluntarily and that is just fine with me! We are all adults and we might not all get a long but it is important to me that we all still play nice on the site!! I hope it stays that way..

You have some really hot and amazing girls, how do you go about finding them and approaching them about working with you? Has it changed since you launched your site?

I totally agree and I am very proud of my girls, even though we are “just” 16 at the moment.. Is it wrong to call them my girls? I heart them!! They have been amazing and really supportive!!! Ehmm, back to your question; we don’t actually find them – we have our promo sites like every one else and they usually find us through there! Thank God! And keep coming, ladies We don’t contact girls anymore with the purpose of having the model for us. Before launching the teaser site, we found the first couple of ladies for the site.. We only asked girls that we knew in some way or another so we were sure that these girls were really into the whole thing! Some are friends of mine and some are models, I met on other sites and became friends with and some are just girls, who I shot a time or two.. Some of the ladies are really serious about their modeling career and some of them just love being on the site and get naked in front of my camera and that is enough for them The good thing about it is that it gives us the advantage of having a lot of exclusive girls no one has ever seen before and like you said, they are HOT!

Awwwwww, you poor, ugly American! Ha ha ha ha Funniest question, Ive gotten up until now in like forever! Ill start with the features. On Payback Baby!, there are 2 kinds of membership – the standard member and the paying member. The standard member has limited access to the site and is free, that means no access to the other members personal profiles, the sets and so on. The paying members have access to it all, simple as that! The features, we offer on the site is 5 updates a week, including 1 photo set. We have our so called “Crushes”, that are reviews of movies, music, websites, shops and so on. You get your own personal profile with your own comment section, guest book, photo album, friends list, hotlist, greeting system, blogs and so on. We also have our groups, were members can create new ones and post topics in and what not! Other than that, there is our chat, our Payback Baby! merchandise shops and our polls, which all are allowed to create also.. It is your basic community with all the goods and shit, we just spiced it up with our sets and our Crushes!

Part 2, let me try to explain this without getting your eyes crossed and you thinking about Girl On Girl action instead We charge in Euro because of the financial crisis and being based in Europe. When you join the site, you start out as a standard member and then you upgrade to a paying member with full access through Paypal. This is what a private member pays for a full access membership:

30 days: $5.70 USD
90 days: $14.26 USD
180 days: $25.67 USD
365 days: $45.64 USD

We also offer Business Memberships, which allows you to promote your business, post pictures of your products with intent to sell and so on, those prices are different.

30 days: $18.54 USD
90 days: $51.35 USD
180 days: $99.85 USD
365 days: $188.30 USD
Happy now?

We are going to offer videos – we already have videos in store for you guys but we still need to figure out some details before going live with that feature. We want it to be decent quality and also to show the female body off in ways, Youtube wont allow us too, so… *Grrrrrrrrrrr*. So keep around for that, that is a promise! We are also considering other things like a forum but that is not decided on yet, so I wont go into that to much! There are still some minor quirks and shit, we take care off as fast as we possibly can.. We are still young, we have been public for exactly 1 month today so Happy Anniversary us! As long as the site is up and I am behind it, we will keep improving it and make it a better place to be..

Love to Altporn and all the fans out there from Payback Baby! and Mette Th13teen.

Kaoskittens is a brand new AltPorn site launched last week by the same people that bring us NeoNasty, BeautyandBraces, EverydaySlaves, KinkyZee, RopeRookie, TissueQueens, Toxxxy, and more. As a matter of fact, they are offering a network deal right now that give you access to all those site metioned above when you join their new Kaoskittens.

This new multi-girl alt site is more of a diverse photographic collection from photographer Michael Andrews than it is a true multigirl AltPorn site. And by diverse, I don’t mean dark complected Eurasian pumpkin-fuckers, I mean it’s a mixed bag of Alt-models, fetish girls, and cute young tight-bodied blondes. Although some of the girls are cool looking and some of the photography is unquestionably appropriate for the genre, there is a lot of work there that I would say falls outside what we would expect from a site claiming it had “one of the most extensive collection of sexy gothic girls, girls with tattoos and alternative models on the web.” It does not. Or at least, it would be far down on the list is anyone were to make a list of all the sites on the web featuring sexy gothic girls, girls with tattoos and alternative models. Despite the boastful claims we’ve come to expect with every new altporn site launch, you may still find a lot of very hot content. It currently features 118 galleries of hi-res images, with new galleries being added weekly, plus full length hi-rez movies, and the network deal is very good. There are a bunch of sexy and well know alt models on their roster already, and we look forward to more. We don’t currently know about any plans to offer interactive or community features, but if you like sexy and creative photography and want to get access to a lot of content with your membership, check Kaoskittens out.

Everyone knows Amelia G runs the Blue Blood empire and also does some of the photography and writing for it. Here on APN, we’ve featured photographs she has shot for Blue Blood many times and we’ve mentioned her writing once or twice. (You can also see the interview we did with Amelia G five years ago — Ed.) I write for APN and I have all the old Blue Blood print magazines from the 90’s in plastic bags with cardboard backing, so I thought I was pretty aware and I still found a lot on Amelia G’s new AmeliaG.com site to both inform and entertain me. In addition to running the business end of Blue Blood and working as an editor for many projects, Amelia G has had hundreds of photo sets published and thousands of articles. Amelia G has done writing and/or photography for all the major adult publishing houses including Playboy, Penthouse, Flynt, Crescent, Magna, and AVN, plus niche magazines including Marquis, On Our Backs, Skin Two, Tattoo Teasers, Fetish, Extreme Fetish, $pread, and of course Blue Blood. Her fiction has appeared in Best American Erotica, Best S/M Erotica, and Best Women’s Erotica and dozens more books. But she still took time out of her busy schedule to give APN this exclusive interview.

APN: Blue Blood magazine in print was really ground zero for jump-starting the whole altporn genre and you’ve managed to maintain a top ranking for Blue Blood for more than sixteen years. To what do you credit your remarkable success and longevity?

AG: Thanks. I always hope the universe will smile on me for hard work and doing the right thing, and sometimes it does. A big advantage Blue Blood had in coming to the web is that the magazine was always subscription-driven and we had free sites for the community for years before we launched our first membership site. We actually had paid members before we had even actually launched the first pay site because we tested out a banner rotation for a few minutes and people saw it. I really appreciate the support we’ve gotten over the years and try to really put a lot back into the scene and into having really great creative work on all my sites.

APN: Okay, so, in your bio on your new personal site, your thesis subject really jumped out at me. You wrote your thesis at Wesleyan University on vampire legends as a paradigm for aggressive human sexuality?

AG: I sure did. Kind of funny that it seemed sort of shocking, and outrageous, and possibly frivolous to be writing about that sort of topic, at a school like that, but it actually did turn out to be relevant to my job. The name Blue Blood is sort of a play on words with the blood for vampires and gothic spookyness and the blue meaning erotic as in blue movies, but the blue blood phrase overall connoting a certain tastefulness and strength. Especially in 1992, when I founded Blue Blood, it was very common for alt-identified people to feel like they had to accept second class citizen status. So the strength aspect is really important to the core manifesto for me. The most important message I would like readers or members to get from Blue Blood is that purple hair or tattoos or having kinky sex or otherwise living flamboyantly does not mean you are not entitled to the rewards of the larger society.

APN: Didn’t the magazine have some bloodplay in it as well?

AG: The very first issue of Blue Blood, my friend Fish wrote a how-to article for safe bloodplay. Fish is a tattoo artist now and he was a military medic then, so he’s educated on the subject, but we got so many angry letters about that article. Blue Blood magazine even showed condoms in shoots and the article was about how to do bloodplay safely, so I’m very safety conscious, but some people just do not understand that it is not the extremity of a sexual practice which makes it unsafe. Unfortunately, in the internet distribution channel, we’ve been forced to move away from anything with blood in it.

APN: How does publishing on the internet instead of in print change whether you can have bloodplay?

AG: A lot of people get all caught up with definitions of genre based on what is and is not shown, but what can be shown in media is very dependent on distribution channel. For example, it did not used to be possible to show penetration in a magazine and be distributed on any newsstands outside of adult bookstores. Online, penetration makes no difference in where something can be seen. By contrast, if a web site accepts credit cards for memberships, they are likely to run into difficulties having any blood content. We’ve had to remove photo sets which showed only topless nudity where the girl was playing with blood made of vanilla-flavored corn syrup and food coloring because it was deemed extreme violence. If you watch Skinemax or cable channels like that, you can’t see penetration, but every other flick is a horror-themed excuse to douse topless women with fake blood. So it is not really that some distribution channels allow more and some allow less; they are just different.

APN: So is publishing on the internet harder or easier than in print?

AG: I love magazines. I still contribute to print projects and still create print projects. I love getting to hold a finished magazine in my hand. But the wonderful thing about the internet is that it is possible to go directly to the people who get it, without having to go through some distributor who hasn’t cracked an adult magazine in twenty years and thinks having tattoos is something that only teenagers would do. Despite a few restrictions on things like bloodplay, I find the internet easier from a distro standpoint. I think it is harder from a community standpoint. Back in the all print days, there used to be a lot of events where publishers would get together and we all traded quarter page ads with each and that is less the case for web publishers in this demographic.

APN: How do you feel about how altporn has evolved?

AG: Well, for one thing, I prefer the expression counterculture erotica to altporn, but I think altporn has definitely become the term for subculture-infused erotic media. In some respects, things are much easier today because being offbeat and being naked on camera have both been really destigmatized most places. In some respects, things being easier means that there are a small percentage of people who decide they want to make altporn who don’t really have the sense of community or individuality which would once have definitely been there. Most people in it are cool, but it has become more difficult to recognize who I have things in common with now, because, for example, there are people who just dress a certain way to be accepted and they don’t really care about personal freedom or get what it is all about.

APN: Your personal pics section on AmeliaG.com is really funny and I spotted so many famous people with you in there. Is your life basically a twenty-four hour party where you go from Hummer limo to book reading to art show to nightclub to fab afterparty?

AG: When I actually do take a moment to go out on the town, I like to make it count. I’m really a workaholic, but I think a gallery of like fifteen shots of me holding a camera and seventy of me sitting at a computer would have been less entertaining than eighty-five of me having fun.

APN: My favorite part of your new AmeliaG.com site is the professional photography portfolio you have on there. I love that you have members of the Misfits, Genitorturers, and Marilyn Manson in there with altstars like Voltaire, Bella Vendetta, and my future wife April Flores and it somehow seems all of a piece. How do you choose who you are going to shoot?

AG: As an artist, it is really important to me that my work be seen, so I like to have an idea of where a shoot might be published. A few hundred people a week apply to appear on the various Blue Blood sites, including BlueBlood.com, BarelyEvil.com, GothicSluts.com, and RubberDollies.com in particular, and there is a submission form on BlueBloodPhoto.com. I, of course, publish other people’s photography even more often than my own on BlueBlood.com etc. and there are only so many hours in the day, but I do photograph select people from the Blue Blood apps. I do take commissions from publications, record labels, and such. In general, I most enjoy photographing people who have a certain spark, star quality, individuality, personal style, and passion for self-expression. Hotness is good, but there needs to be hotness with unique self-expression. After all, I think avoiding just conforming to someone else’s aesthetic is important to being alt.

APN: Thanks so much for your time. Congrats on the launch of AmeliaG.com. It looks fabulous, it is fun to look at, and it is really informative.

AG: Thank you for the interview and the kind words.

Speaking of sexy alt-boys, several of our friends have contacted us about a new site that just launched called Home for Lost Boys. This new entry in the altporn genre was recently started by one of the girls from GeekGirlsOnline, along with several of her talented friends. They say they launched the site because they were tired of the dearth of cute alt-boys available for online viewing pleasure. Taking into account that we’re going to have to get a reviewer on board soon that actually gets off on hot naked alternative guys, in my opinion, the content here so far looks promising.

The rhetoric still leaves a little to be desired. In their site FAQ, for example, they answer the question:

Is this porn?
“We will never have explicit material on the site. Our models are not required to show full frontal, and nudity will always be tasteful and appropriate. Photographers and models have been blurring the line between art and porn for years, and we seek to further that movement.”

If they are trying to further blur the line, they should stay away from the absolute statements and implied value judgments. I don’t even know what some of that even means. Is hard cock more explicit than limp dick? It seems to imply that if they are always tasteful and appropriate and they are never explicit, one could conclude that they feel explicit isn’t tasteful and appropriate, which I do not agree with. Maybe an argument could be made that shirtless girls would be adult content a site could charge membership fees for, so maybe shirtless guys should be fair adult content to charge for too. But, for my money, I want to know I’m getting adult material worthy of at least a hard ‘R’ rating. I don’t see a single penis in their entire tour.

Despite their manifesto reading like an checklist of indie altporn site cliche’s, like notice that the site is “primarily run by women” as if that somehow makes any positive difference, I do think they have something people might enjoy, they just need more of it. They do get a bag full of bonus points for not telling us they are the ‘first’ of anything and I really do hear a lot about how hard it can be to fine sexy naked cool looking guys on the adult web. I just hope they get over their shy approach and commit to the fact that they have a paid membership site that should feature hot naked alternative guys. They need to jump in with both feet and go for it full on, because if they cling to the idea that their content may or may not get naked, depending on how they feel, etc. then Home for Lost Boys will fail.

I only hope that they understand that we really do want a good entry in the altporn marketplace that features nice photography (and video) showing stylish, attractive, fun, creative, cool guys, so this isn’t meant as pan of the site. It’s a new site and I hope that they think about some of this experienced advice and make the commitments and adjustments required for them to succeed. In the mean time, their introductory prices are not too bad, so check it out for yourself and let them know what you want to see in this sort of site.

Apnea just announced a hot upcoming gallery show featuring her boyfriend Chase Lisbon of Supercult. It looks like there is going to be plenty of really sexy photography of very sexy girls there, including a lot of very hot shots of Apnea herself. I really love how she brings out the best in the photographers she dates, it speaks well of her beauty and style and the talent she herself brings as a model. Chase is no slouch either, so together they have made some images I really really enjoy. If you are anywhere near Philadelphia on May 2nd, be sure to check it out. Take some pictures of the crowd and send them to us, I don’t think I’m going to make it up there, but I’d love to see some coverage.

I’ve just been introduced to the cool creative work of an artist by the name of Markley??? and I felt it was my duty to share these great portraits of our friend and fellow sex blogger Violet Blue. I have to admit that when I saw the first shot I thought it might be from our creative friends over at Porn Saints, but apparently there is no connection, not as of yet anyway. This is the kind of edgy creative work I really enjoy getting to see. Sex toys, fireworks, guns, and sexy tattooed friends of ours. That is what it’s all about. Check out the Markley: Three Question Marks site for some insane ramblings and more sexy dangerous creative work.

Good creative underwater photography is always a real treat. It’s pretty difficult to get good expressions, elegant poses, flattering light patterns, and so many other challenging factors to all come together. I really enjoyed checking out this Deviant Nation debut set of a sexy tattooed pierced, scarified Gothic girl by the name of AutopsyAlice. You can’t see it in this sample, but she’s got some really interesting autopsy scarification bisecting her entire torso, and the effect of seeing a girl with markings only usually familiar on the recently dead posing casually breathless at the bottom of a pool made for a really ghostly feel.

Beautiful photographic muse Apnea has demonstrated her charming power to move the masses again with her recently posted Zivity collaboration with SuperCult’s Chase Lisbon. Their photographic contribution has not only broken the site’s all time record for most set votes within a 24 hour period, it has also now received more votes than any other set ever posted to the site. I have some reservations about very heavily funded UGC membership sites that not only pay for their content contributions based on ‘votes’ (traffic) you as a contributor manage to get yourself by doing their promotion work for them, but also also manage to deliver that payout significantly after they get to use your contribution. People seem excited about the system, but I know a few alt models that have made more money than this set will probably eventually pay out, simply by signing up for the affiliate programs of the alt sites their sets go up on and doing the same sort of self promotion, and they get paid faster too. Anyway, it is good to see Apnea really making a power statement and these really are some very sexy stylish photos deserving of accolade.

I love this intimately erotic gothy fetishistic series of Salem, beautifully shot for BrokenDollz by Fedora. The soft morningish light accentuating Salems lush curves and amazing smooth skin. It’s a loving study in hot lingerie, kinky heels, and just a great looking girl. Fedora really captured Salems witchy woman look, up close and personal. I’m in love with Salem’s mouth, her eyes, and everything else. If for nothing else, you should check out BrokenDollz to enjoy these.